Bad Things to Good People? or Good Things to Bad People?

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By liftandsoar

"I talked to you last night."

It was just a matter of fact statement from a fellow associate at Home Depot. She caught my attention 'cause I hadn't seen her in two days. "Yep, in my dream." Now I was hooked and just a little freaked. I don't usually roam around in people's dreams. "I was asking you about why bad things happen to good people. You didn't answer me." "Sorry" I said. "Wanna talk?" We chatted just a little. HD doesn't appreciate associates entering into deep philosophical discussions when a customer is hovering around looking for light bulbs. It ended with my promise to bring her a better book than the Rabbi Harold Kushner's When Bad things Happen to Good People. A quick google or scan of Amazon will show you he's not the only person to write on this question.

Where Is God When It Hurts?
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What would you do with the answer?

There are a host of assumptions behind the question. An obvious one is that there is consensus on the definition of "good" and "bad." Another is that if we knew the answer life would go better. Try this one on. Your good friend is enduring a long terminal bout with cancer. You feel helpless and frustrated. The question keeps popping into your head. So Jesus himself appears to give you the answer. Will knowing the answer make you feel less helpless and frustrated? I doubt it. Maybe that's why some questions don't have answers, at least not helpful answers. How wise of me not to answer my friend in her dream!

But the question persists

Let's first dispense with two popular but wrong answers. Kushner's answer is that God would love to fix all the wrongs but can't. Why do bad things happen to good people? 'Cause God can't help it. The God who introduces himself in the Scriptures is all powerful. There are hundreds of Bible passages that say that, but let's stick with one simple statement from Jesus. "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26

The other answer I suggest you ignore is that God doesn't really care about fixing wrongs. Atheist don't believe there is a god. Agnostics don't know if there's one. Deists hold that if there is one, he's far removed from us and doesn't engage in human affairs at all. All three find the notion of a loving caring God rather fanciful.

The best answer

A young man named Joseph was once sold into Egyptian slavery by his jealous brothers. In Egypt he became a powerful bureaucrat second only to Pharaoh. When his brothers came to Egypt to buy food, Joseph was there to deal with them. It's a long story, but needless to say, the brothers feared that Joseph would avenge his mistreatment at their hands. But Joseph gave them a line that has rung down through history. "Do not fear, for am I in the place of God? As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today." Genesis 50:19,20

The same thing can be said of those who crucified Jesus. If ever a bad thing happened to a good person this is it. But listen to this prayer offered by the disciples gathered in Jerusalem. "Truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place." Acts 4:27,28

In both cases something deemed bad by man was used for good by God. Methinks the answer to our question lies in this direction. But enough for now. This is the first of several hubs on this subject. I'm partial to short and simple. Besides, your responses will, no doubt, sharpen my next few hubs. So let me hear from you.


Comments - I'm listening

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liftandsoar Hub Author 5 weeks ago

Thanks, Melindas Mind, for your thoughts on this hub. God indeed is equipping you to be an understanding friend and mentor to many. Delighted to read in your profile that your husband is preparing for ministry. I pray God's blessing and favor upon your efforts.

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Melindas Mind Level 1 Commenter 5 weeks ago

Good hub - this is a question I'm asked often. Because of my chronic health problems, people feel safe asking me this because I understand 'unjust' punishment. (For background I have crohns disease, arthritis, diabetes, asthma, chronic anemia, and severe scoliosis ... along with a host of minor complaints) What I usually tell that is that if God was always understandable to me, then I'd be God. The way I explain it to them is that God is infinite, in comparison we are infants. Does an infant understand why they have colic or an ear infection? No. Does a toddler understand why they can't run into the street? No. That doesn't mean their isn't a reason, it just means they aren't capable of understanding it. So, too, is my illnesses. I do not understand why I'm sick - none of my conditions are because of anything I did; it's just one of those things. I also don't understand why God didn't heal my nephew, who died at the age of three. That doesn't mean that He who made the world doesn't have a reason for not healing me. I have trust and faith that I will, someday, understand.

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Good to hear from you Michele. I so appreciate your comments. I did read you last hub. Not sure what to think, but it certainly was thought provoking.

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Michele Travis Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

liftandsoar I am so glad you share hubs like this, people need to be strong. You help them. I think my last hub scared them or they thought it was a lie. But we both know the truth. God bless you!

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks for stopping by CJ. Yes, the wicked unwittingly do God's bidding.

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CJ Sledgehammer Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Another great Hub, Liftandsoar, thank you!

The Bible states that rain falls on the righteous as well as on the unrighteous. One cannot know what the Almighty's purposes are and most of the time we are not meant to. For His ways are much higher than our own.

It is clear, to me anyway, that the Almighty and His Son, Christ Yeshua, created the universe and all that is in it.

I think, perhaps, that even those who ignore or hate God, somehow serve His purpose, if for no other reason than to keep the world moving along or possibly serving to test the faithful.

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Glad to hear form you Dragnhaze. It's always nice to find someone who agrees with me.

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dragnhaze Level 3 Commenter 3 months ago

I believe exactly as you mentioned with the implications of the story of Joseph, bad things happen to good people so that the bad can be used by those good people to do good for the majority of the other good people that bad things are happening to. There is often more then one single good soul subjected to the evil deeds, it is for those good people to strengthen themselves so that can turn that bad into good.

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Good to hear from you Michele. Glad you found it helpful. As always, check all out with the Scriptures.

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Michele Travis Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Very good hub liftandsoar none of us are perfect, we have all sinned. But, the thing about good things happening to bad people or bad things happening to good people we do not know enough to understand these things. We try to understand, but God and only God knows. At least that is what I think. This is a very good hub. Thank you for this hub.

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Good to see you again, Artin. Thanks for your comment. I be hubbing probably next Saturday or Sunday

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Artin2010 Level 3 Commenter 3 months ago

Very good topic, look forward to reading more on this. You have heard the Indian folklore about the two wolf spirits living in a person and feeding one of them actually starves out the other? That kind of reminds me of the battle between good and evil going on in each of us keeping our minds working to choose what is good rather than going astray in thought. Thanks LS, Voted up and very interesting. Keep on hubbing. Blessings

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liftandsoar Hub Author 3 months ago

Why thanks, Jo. So glad you stopped by. Don't be too surprised if you find yourself quoted in my next missive. :-)

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Jo_Goldsmith11 Level 5 Commenter 3 months ago

What a great topic to write about! I grew up being taught that in the *best of us, there is a little bad, and in the *worst of us, there is a little good.*

I believe that this is due to the nature of born sin that we all have. Some have the little spark of light, but we allow bitterness to blow out the candle. I voted up and SHARED! :)

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